{"id":12128,"date":"2024-07-02T22:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-07-02T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/modernsciences.org\/staging\/4414\/?p=12128"},"modified":"2024-06-21T05:51:03","modified_gmt":"2024-06-21T05:51:03","slug":"house-of-the-dragon-if-dragons-were-real-how-might-fire-breathing-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/modernsciences.org\/staging\/4414\/house-of-the-dragon-if-dragons-were-real-how-might-fire-breathing-work\/","title":{"rendered":"House of the Dragon: if dragons were real, how might\u00a0fire-breathing\u00a0work?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"theconversation-article-body\">\n\n  <span><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/mark-lorch-91662\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mark Lorch<\/a>, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/university-of-hull-1191\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">University of Hull<\/a><\/em><\/span>\n\n  <p>In George R.R. Martin\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hbo.com\/house-of-the-dragon\/map-of-westeros\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">fantastical land of Westeros<\/a> in Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, the spectacle of dragons breathing fire captivates his audience through a blend of myth and fantasy. For me at least, there\u2019s also scientific curiosity. <\/p>\n\n<p>The images of dragons unleashing torrents of flames on the new series of House of the Dragon got me thinking: if dragons existed, what real-world biological mechanisms and chemical reactions might they use? <\/p>\n\n<p>But first, a chemistry recap. To ignite and sustain a flame, we need three components; a fuel, an oxidising agent &#8211; typically the oxygen in the air &#8211; and a heat source to initiate and maintain combustion. <\/p>\n\n<p>Let\u2019s start with the fuel. Methane could be a candidate. Animals produce it during digestion. The images on the screen of Westeros show dragons are keen on eating sheep. However, our methane-fuelled dragons would need to have a diet and digestive system <a href=\"https:\/\/clear.ucdavis.edu\/explainers\/why-do-cattle-produce-methane-and-what-can-we-do-about-it\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more like that of a cow<\/a> to produce enough gas to burn down a city. <\/p>\n\n<p>There\u2019s also a problem with the storage of sufficient amounts of methane gas. A typical methane cylinder might be rated for 150 atmospheres of pressure, while even a bloated gut can only tolerate a little over one atmosphere. So there\u2019s no biological basis for non-marine animals to store gasses under high pressure.<\/p>\n\n<p>A better option would be a liquid. Ethanol could be an option. Maybe our dragons hold a vat of fermenting yeast in their guts, or they could have a metabolic system similar to Devil\u2019s Hole pupfish, which live in hot springs in Nevada, US. <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.biologists.com\/jeb\/article\/218\/23\/3739\/14420\/Paradoxical-anaerobism-in-desert-pupfish\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Under low oxygen conditions,<\/a> these fish switch to a form of respiration which produces ethanol. <\/p>\n\n<p>However, storage is once again an issue. Ethanol quickly passes through biological membranes, so keeping it at high concentrations and ready to deploy on the \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/culture\/television\/dracarys-meaning-missandei-high-valyrian-game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-4-daenerys-288199\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dracarys<\/a>\u201d signal (which translates to \u201cdragonfire\u201d in the fictitious language High Valyrian) would require some otherworldly biology. <\/p>\n\n<p>So, if we are sticking to explanations with at least one foot in real-world biology, then my preferred option is something more oil-based. As anyone who has accidentally set fire to a frying pan knows, this can be a source of roaring flames. There is a biological basis for this in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wildlifetrusts.org\/wildlife-explorer\/birds\/seabirds\/fulmar\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">fulmar gull<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>They produce energy-rich stomach oil that they regurgitate to feed their chicks. The oil also serves as a deterrent. When threatened, the fulmar vomits the sticky, stinky oil over predators. Thankfully, the gulls have not yet evolved a way to ignite their vomit. <\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"align-center \">\n            <img  decoding=\"async\"  alt=\"White and grey gull with beak open\"  src=\"data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABAQMAAAAl21bKAAAAA1BMVEUAAP+KeNJXAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAlwSFlzAAAOxAAADsQBlSsOGwAAAApJREFUCNdjYAAAAAIAAeIhvDMAAAAASUVORK5CYII=\"  class=\" pk-lazyload\"  data-pk-sizes=\"auto\"  data-ls-sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\"  data-pk-src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601789\/original\/file-20240619-17-hh9ktm.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\"  data-pk-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601789\/original\/file-20240619-17-hh9ktm.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=405&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601789\/original\/file-20240619-17-hh9ktm.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=405&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601789\/original\/file-20240619-17-hh9ktm.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=405&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601789\/original\/file-20240619-17-hh9ktm.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=509&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601789\/original\/file-20240619-17-hh9ktm.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=509&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601789\/original\/file-20240619-17-hh9ktm.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=509&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" >\n            <figcaption>\n              <span class=\"caption\">You don\u2019t want to get on the wrong side of a fulmar.<\/span>\n              <span class=\"attribution\"><a class=\"source\" href=\"https:\/\/www.shutterstock.com\/image-photo\/close-calling-northern-fulmar-fulmarus-glacialis-1370795249\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Giedriius\/Shutterstock<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/figcaption>\n          <\/figure>\n\n<h2 id=\"feeding-the-flames\">Feeding the flames<\/h2>\n\n<p>Now that we have a fuel source, let\u2019s turn our attention to the oxidising agent. As with most fires, this will most probably be oxygen. However, it will take more than oxygen in the surrounding air to generate a jet of pressurised flaming oil hot enough to melt an iron throne. And it would have to be well mixed in with the fuel. The better the supply of oxygen, the hotter the flame. <\/p>\n\n<p>A dragon could draw on some chemistry used by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nhm.ac.uk\/discover\/bombardier-beetles-and-their-caustic-chemical-cannon.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bombardier beetle<\/a>. This insect has evolved reservoirs adapted to store hydrogen peroxide (the stuff you might use to bleach your hair). When threatened, the beetle pushes hydrogen peroxide into a vestibule containing enzymes that rapidly decompose the hydrogen peroxide into water and oxygen. <\/p>\n\n<p>This is an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/bitesize\/articles\/zb7wwnb#zrmqqfr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">exothermic reaction<\/a>, which transfers energy to the surroundings, and in this case raises the temperature of the mixture to almost boiling point. The reaction is so aggressive it is sometimes used to <a href=\"https:\/\/science.howstuffworks.com\/question159.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">propel rockets<\/a>. The increase in pressure caused by the rapid production of oxygen and the boiling water forces the noxious mixture out of a vent in the beetle\u2019s abdomen and towards its prey or threat. <\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"align-center \">\n            <img  decoding=\"async\"  alt=\"Close up of orange beetle\"  src=\"data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABAQMAAAAl21bKAAAAA1BMVEUAAP+KeNJXAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAlwSFlzAAAOxAAADsQBlSsOGwAAAApJREFUCNdjYAAAAAIAAeIhvDMAAAAASUVORK5CYII=\"  class=\" pk-lazyload\"  data-pk-sizes=\"auto\"  data-ls-sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\"  data-pk-src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601791\/original\/file-20240619-17-7i9voq.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\"  data-pk-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601791\/original\/file-20240619-17-7i9voq.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=418&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601791\/original\/file-20240619-17-7i9voq.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=418&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601791\/original\/file-20240619-17-7i9voq.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=418&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601791\/original\/file-20240619-17-7i9voq.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=525&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601791\/original\/file-20240619-17-7i9voq.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=525&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/601791\/original\/file-20240619-17-7i9voq.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=525&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" >\n            <figcaption>\n              <span class=\"caption\">Bombardier beetles store hydrogen peroxide in their bodies.<\/span>\n              <span class=\"attribution\"><a class=\"source\" href=\"https:\/\/www.shutterstock.com\/image-photo\/bombardier-beetle-brachinus-alternans-91589084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">johannviloria\/Shutterstock<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/figcaption>\n          <\/figure>\n\n<p>If employed by a dragon, this reaction has a few nice features. It would create the high pressure needed to drive the jet of oily fuel, the exothermic reaction would heat the oils making them more ready to combust, and most importantly, it would generate oxygen that would drive the combustion reaction. <\/p>\n\n<p>All the dragon would need is some sort of biological equivalent of a petrol engine carburettor to mix the oil with the oxygen and create an explosive mix. As a bonus, the erupting mixture would probably form a fine mist of oil droplets, like an aerosol, which would ignite all the better. <\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"the-spark\">The spark<\/h2>\n\n<p>Finally, we need a spark to ignite the mix. For this, I\u2019m going to suggest the dragons have evolved an electric organ similar to that found in many fish, particularly <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/how-electric-eels-use-shocks-to-remote-control-other-fish-35002\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">electric eels<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n<p>These can generate short pulses of up to 600 volts, easily enough to create a spark across a short air gap. If these sparks discharged across the ducts at the back of a dragon\u2019s mouth, they could ignite the high-pressure jet of oil and oxygen. <\/p>\n\n<p>While we\u2019ll never see a dragon unleashing torrents of flames outside the realm of fiction, it\u2019s intriguing to ponder the science behind fantasy. So, next time you witness a Targaryen\u2019s command of \u201cdracarys,\u201d think about the biology behind that magical inferno.<!-- Below is The Conversation's page counter tag. 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